Posts by Coded Logic

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Decrease of numbers in Jehovah's Witnesses via Deaths, DFings, or Turning Inactive

by flipper in

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friends

so i'm sure a good number of us saw the chart that i believe the poster splash put on another thread of figures since 1990 regarding how many baptized and % of increase each year .

i started analyzing it ( and i know some referred to it briefly on the other thread ) and guessing of reasons the % of increase didn't match the number of newly baptized.

and of course common sense tells us that either jw's leave the cult each year through death, fading into inactivity, or getting dfed.

Coded Logic

I'm sorry but these numbers are entirely fallacious. You CANNOT get the number of people leaving simply by subtracting the number of baptisms by the number of publishers.

Why? Because baptised people are ALREADY counted as publishers. The number of people baptised says nothing about the number of new publishers. We would have to know the number of new publishers and then subtract that by the total number of publishers to figure out how many people are leaving. But we simply don't have those numbers.

For example, imagine if there were a year where a 100,000 people were baptised and not a single person left. What kind of growth in publishers would we expect to see?

Well, the answer is we wouldn't know. Because zero people could become new publishers and the number of people baptized could still be positive.

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Is it true that they decided not to build Walkill Recreation center and then buried the foundation?

by Indian Larry in

i saw this on ex jw reddit:"this may not be news to you but it was to me.

forgive me if this has already been posted before.

it came from a reliable source working on the warwick project.. wallkill bethel had broken ground and laid the foundation for a new recreation building.

Coded Logic

OMG they're so duplicitous! They brag about finishing ahead of schedule but it's only because they've not built whole buildings! They just have to spin everything!

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New Generation Understanding gives further reasons not to watch Star Trek reruns

by pirata in

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friends

the new light on the generation gives us even further reason not to watch star trek re-runs.. the title "star trek - the next generation" misleads people about the real meaning of what is meant by a "generation".. evidently the lives of starfleet officers who served aboard uss enterprise ncc-1701 would overlap with those who served aboard the uss enterprise ncc-1701-d. since spock and mccoy's life overlapped with picard's, they were contemporaries, and thus of the same generation.. if the producers of the show were truly sincere in advocating the truth, they would have titled the show "star trek - the contemporary overlapping generation continued".. my dear brothers and sisters: let us be resolved never to be deceived the by the deceptive entertainment of this world!.

[ applause ].

Coded Logic

Yeah, it shouldn't be Star Trek: The Next Generation.

It should be Star Trek: The Same Generation!

47

Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

Coded Logic

In regards to:

Respect

Sympathy

Gossip

Intellectual Honesty

Fairness

Family

Equality

Cost/Benefit

Epistemology

etc.

. . . ?

45

Liquidation sale of RBC assets

by Darkknight757 in

got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

Coded Logic

WOW! I wonder if this is just for your area or if it is on a larger scale? I know things are bad for the WT, but is it really at this point already?

Maybe things are far worse than any of us realize . . .

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Kudos to Those in Military Service or Happy Belated Veterans Day

by Perry in

in recent years i have come to value our military more and more as time goes by.

as a jw, i was trained to view those in military service as murderers; or misguided fools.

they are true heroes that help bring order to society.

Coded Logic

Good points Perry, thanks for posting!!!

31

Make your predictions!

by Coded Logic in

the more specific the better :) here are mine:.

i predict that within the next two to three years (2017-2018) we will start seeing negative numbers in growth.. i predict that within the next thirteen to fifteen years (2027-2030) the number of jws will be less than 4million.. and i predict that by the time the first person sets foot on mars there will already have been a major split in the organization with either one of the gb or a branch overseer starting a new religion..

Coded Logic

I can see nothing positive in the WT future.

Agreed.

31

Make your predictions!

by Coded Logic in

the more specific the better :) here are mine:.

i predict that within the next two to three years (2017-2018) we will start seeing negative numbers in growth.. i predict that within the next thirteen to fifteen years (2027-2030) the number of jws will be less than 4million.. and i predict that by the time the first person sets foot on mars there will already have been a major split in the organization with either one of the gb or a branch overseer starting a new religion..

Coded Logic

The more specific the better :) Here are mine:

I predict that within the next two to three years (2017-2018) we will start seeing negative numbers in growth.

I predict that within the next thirteen to fifteen years (2027-2030) the number of JWs will be less than 4million.

And I predict that by the time the first person sets foot on Mars there will already have been a major split in the Organization with either one of the GB or a Branch Overseer starting a new religion.

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Latest Letter

by Coded Logic in

dear mentally diseased apostates,.

we are happy to report to you that we are tired of waiting around for jehovah to do his his whole "armageddon thing" and have instead taken steps to expedite the end ourselves.

we are very confident as "guardians of the doctrine" that we can accomplish this by dismantling the wtbts and its subsidiaries which will, in turn, force god's hand and bring about the coming of jesus riding on a white horse out of the clouds with a sword - or skulls - or scales - err, whatever .

Coded Logic

Perhaps I should have added DO partake of the emblems. That seems to be the only thing going up in JW land.

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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?

by xjwsrock in

firstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.

i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.

more entitled may be a better way of putting it.

Coded Logic

I'm not sure that they CAN tithe. Most Witnesses just out right couldn't afford it even if they wanted to.

I don't see tithing as increasing the donations per-person by any significant amount. But I would see it waking a lot of people up or giving those half out an excuse to leave.